Dr. Mark Starr is a veterinarian, not a real Doctor! What in the HE!! is he doing running the communicable disease department of Placer County Health? This is a dangerous situation that could blow up in the face of Placer County's Good Ol' Boy network. If you don't believe me, check it out.

Dont be clueless and get this poison people. he CDC has followed in the footsteps of British health authorities by warning neurologists to look out for cases of the nerve disease Guillain-Barre syndrome caused by the swine flu vaccine.

Doctors in Britain were advised last month by the government to carefully track cases of the disease and report each one to the Health Protection Agency. A letter sent by 600 neurologists indicated that “there is concern at the highest levels that the vaccine itself could cause serious complications,” according to a Daily Mail report.

According to a study released August 26, 2009 by the British Medical Journal, more than half of Hong Kong's healthcare workers surveyed said they would refuse the H1N1 shot, which is not yet available, because they are afraid of side effects and doubt how safe and effective it will be.

According to Kathleen Sebelius, Secretary of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, your children should be the first target for mass swine flu vaccinations when school starts this fall.[i]f children are the first target group in the U.S. per Sebelius, that means we’re about to inject around 75 million children with a fast tracked vaccine containing novel adjuvants, including dangerous squalene, to prevent perhaps 100 deaths.This is a ridiculous assumption for many reasons, not to mention extremely high risk.

Your immune system recognizes squalene as an oil molecule native to your body.

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/10/24/CBS-Reveals-that-Swine-Flu-Cases-Seriously-Overestimated.aspx

Another example of Obama Care. Bureaucrats at the federal level practicing medicine.

dr russell blaylock explaines the information very well on his website

The flu, eh? I think I'll take my chances...

I am not fooled by this eugenics plot to soft kill the American people. These people make me sick we need more people to see past the lie.

Do not get this shot it may cause you serious medical problems are you willing to gamble your life or your loved ones? look at the redskins cheerleader who is a victim of the flu shot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4MIm1mB7GM

you need not take this shot. just get the word out that you maybe gambling with your health.

There is no way I would take this shot, and there's never been a flu shot that I thought was a good thing to receive. The problem for those who decline is that those who do take these vaccinations get sick more often than not, and we can catch their vaccine-inflicted illness quite easily in the workplace. It's annoying to have to wear uncomfortable medical masks and use hand sanitizer during this season, and this article implies that the time period will be prolonged.

I really think that this country has entered survival of the fittest mode, and we need to build ourselves up as best we can.

Want to hear the latest H1N1 information from the top Health Official in Placer County, Dr. Burton? See below...

Public Safety - H1N1 Flu Virus

Town Hall Meeting

Thursday October 29th, 2009

7 p.m to 9 p.m.

Community Meeting Rooms at Mahany Park 1545 Pleasant Grove Blvd.

(Meeting Rooms are located between the Riley Library & the Sports Center)

7-7:30 p.m. (20 minute presentation/10 minutes for questions)

Roseville Fire Dept. - Fire prevention, especially during the holiday season, and other topics.

7:30-8 p.m. (20 minute presentation/10 minutes for questions)

Roseville Police Dept. - Crime stats and prevention, holiday shopping tips, and other items of interest.

8-9 p.m. (30 minute presentation/30 minutes for questions)

Dr. Richard Burton will address the H1N1 virus

Join us for an educational and informative evening learning valuable prevention measures.

Refreshments will be served. Sponsored by RCONA and the Roseville Press Tribune

www.rcona.org

thebigboi,

According to the CDC "There are no adjuvants (such as squalene) in either the 2009 H1N1 or seasonal flu shot used in the United States. " (http://www.cdc.gov/H1N1flu/vaccination/pregnant_qa.htm)

So much hysteria and paranoia on here it is unbelievable. Everyone needs to make an informed decision for themselves. Look to multiple resouces to get your information and PLEASE those of you who don't get the vaccine stay home if you show any signs of the flu as to not wander around out there infecting me and my loved ones. We all need to take steps to protect ourselves and keep our immune systems strong, but this goes for every day.

Stay well and try to say sane, responding not reacting to situations of all kinds.

Oh and this Dr.Mark Starr is a specialist in infective disease not a veterinarian. More than one person can have the name. LOL

Check the County letterhead, he is a DVM, doctor of Vetrinary medicine.

Yahooligan,

Why is it a bad thing to have a DVM as the head of our communicable disease department?

because we're not dogs, although with government healthcre, we may end up being treated by vets.

Yahooligan,

My guess is that Dr. Starrs job is mostly administrative and requires a knowledge of communicable diseases. As a vet it seems reasonable that Dr. Starr might have a deep knowledge of communicable diseases, especially vector borne diseases (several of which are endemic to placer county).

I don't know Dr. Starr, nor do I know if he is any good at his job. However, I am not opposed to a vet running the county communicable disease department solely because he is a DVM.

Joszef Pelikan

Member - John Snow Society

If he is that brilliant, it shouldn't be that hard to get his M.D. Government officials in charge of the citizen's health should human doctors, not animal doctors. There are enough differences in medicines, biology, immune systems, etc that they should be experienced in treating people, not pets.

Yahooligan,

Dr. Starr is not treating people, he is an administrator. If he is possesses the necessary knowledge, and is good at his job, why should he go to med school?

Then the county shouldn't pass him off as a DOCTOR when he's making official statements. Be TRANSPARENT as the current administration pushes

Joszef,

would you be a member of the Mark Starr Society? Probably not, as Dr. John Snow's training allowed him to successfully track the source of the cholera. He was studying medicine, not conducting flea dips.

Yahooligan,

He is a doctor. The title doctor is not limited to medical doctors.

Joszef,

you're absolutely correct, but when that titled is used in conjunction with HUMAN health services, the inference and logical conclusion is that the person is a medical doctor, not a PHD, vet, chiropractor or any other holder of the DR. title. Not shockingly, our government is misleading us, not necessarily lying to us. With the government, President and World Health Organization telling us that the swine flu epidemic is killing people around the world, in the US and the AJ telling us that it is widespread in Placer County, we should have medical doctor informing us of the risks, vaccines, and symptoms, not a damned vetrinarian. He was probably appointed by a friend of the family, neighbor, fellow Tahoe Club member, etc. He certainly didn't get his position based on being the most qualified, unless no one else applied, or perhap's it was something concocted by Ulher. From a human health perspective, this is ridiculous!

Yahooligan,

When I was in medical school, I had several study groups with vet students (biochemistry,microbiology and others). The vet students we studied with were incredibly knowledgeable and in some instances were required to know much more than the med students (rabies, Lyme, avian flu, CJD, hantavirus, and many of the viral encephalitis to name a few).

Unlike most doctors, many vets are accustomed to looking at things from an larger perspective (the herd vs the individual). If a cow has hoof and mouth disease, a vet's responsibility is to the welfare of the herd. This style of thinking could lend itself to public health since the focus is more about the population and less about the individual.

To answer your question; I don't know if I would be a member of the Mark Starr society. I don't know if Mark is doing a good job, but It does not concern me that he is a DVM.

Yahooligan,

If you have evidence that Dr. Starr was appointed by a friend of the family, neighbor, fellow Tahoe Club member, etc and that he didn't get his position based on being the most qualified applicants, then that would be interesting. It would also be interesting if you could show that Dr. Starr is performing poorly. However, inferring that Starr was given the position by a family member, or that he is a bad administrator solely because of his DVM degree is a load nonsense.

I was simply stating that being a vet doesn't qualify him for this popsition over a MD. Given Placer County's hiring practices, I.E. Kirk Uhler's wife, the good ol' boy network, etc. those scenarios are not out of the question. If you feel comfortable with a veterinarian handling the dreaded Swine Flu epidemic, your medical costs should be much less than the general population. Who does your dental work, Floydd the barber? Much like the licensed vs unlicensed contractor issue, a MD is specifically trained to treat the human body, and if done properly, comfort the human soul( with a good bedside manner), and a vet is trained to diagnose and treat pet issues. I know several veterinarians, great guys, but I wouldn't trust my family's health to them and their specific training. Herd mentality might work from a larger perspective, but I bet when you look at medical issues they are informing us on, you look at it from a personal perspective. The health of my family is a personal issue, not a herd issue. I, for one, would prefer a medical doctor that has been trained to treat the human body, not someone with a herd mentality.

Yahooligan,

You are talking about two different things. Of course I require my family doctor to be a MD, but I do not expect the clinic administrator to me a medical doctor. Dr. Starr is an administrator.

The health of your family (when it comes to communicable disease) is both a personal and a population issue. Your doctor coordinates individual treatment, while public health officials coordinate broader (herd) efforts, like education and prevention. Dr Starr is a public health administrator, not your personal physician. Do you think Dr. Starr is doing a bad job as a public health administrator?

I think that by using the title Dr. in a public health setting without clarifying that he is a veterinarian, he is being dishonest. Public officials are held to a higher standard in regards to honesty, morality, and performance. He is willfully commiting a dishonest act to the taxpayers of this county by not publicly clarifying his degree and continuing to use it when addressing human health services. He may be a very qualified administrator and he should allow those skills to shine instead of hiding behind a misleading title. There are many very qualified administrators without the title Dr. but I don't believe the general public would want them making health decisions for them. By using the title Dr. when he supposedly is only acting as an administrator is dishonest at best and potentially fatal if he were ever to make the wrong call based on his training and lack of a medical degree. The citizens of Placer County are being duped by a county department that probably only sees a major emergency every decade or so and his lack of medical training hasn't hurt anyone..........yet.

Dear Misinformed Bloggers,

It is harder to get into vet school than medical school. Many human treatments were developed by Doctors of Veterinarian Medicine. Dr. Milt Wyman of Ohio State developed most of the techniques that Eye Doctors use to treat human eye problems. Vets in the Armed Services are usually involved in developing biological warfare weapons and the antidotes. They are experts in infectious disease.

wow- get a life u 2

"novel adjuvants, including dangerous squalene" are not FDA approved therefore can not be manufactured in the US.

fourgen,

You are right. Thanks for that.

Hello everybody, my name is Alex Starr and I am Mark Starr's son. I have lived in Rocklin my entire life with my family and am now at a Cal State University. My father got his Doctorate degree in veterinary medicine from UC Davis, as well as a post doctorate in preventative veterinary medicine (epidemiology). In no way, shape, or form does he see patients, treat humans, or prescribe medicine to humans. He is trained in controlling transmissible diseases between animals and humans. He has worked in animals shelters, private clinics, and for the state of California. The H1N1 virus, much like the avian bird flu we have heard of in the past, IS a transmissible disease from animals to humans. While an MD could treat the people, a DVM with an emphasis on public health can look at the broader picture and see how the disease spreads due to biological and environmental factors. While my opinion is obviously bias, please do not post "facts" on websites such as this about diseases you are not fully versed on, or people you do not know.