The quality of the video is terrible but you can still see the deer family. I call them "deer family" because many of them I knew since they were babies though I lost many to sadistic hunters which was very heartbreaking for me.

Congratulations Caroline. By letting those deer frolic around with you filming them; you are helping hunters. I love to watch deer and they are gorgeous creatures; but being a wildlife expert, i know that a line needs to be line drawn. You are a deer enthusiast; whereas I am wildlife management expert that helps manage 32,000 acres. You confuse your opinions with actual facts. "hunters are sadistic" in your opinion. "Hunters create large deer herds" in you opinion.....however, that is the most far fetched concept I believe to be posted on the internet.

"By letting those deer frolic around with you filming them; you are helping hunters. "

There is a website called "deer in my yard" and she has so many deer that comes to her property and even walks inside her house but she said even if the deer are comfortable around certain people does not mean they are still not cautious with strangers because they are. As you can see in the end of the video something spooks the male and they are running no when fall season comes they are senses gets stronger and they are so easily spooked which I am glad. "Wildlife management" means crap to me, the only thing they "manage" is to spend billions of dollars to create large deer herd and big boned antlered deer to kill. You are the most disgusting humans to walk the earth, those who destroy an innocent sentient life for "sports" and body parts to make yourself feel "important'.

Explain why in "deer management" website one always see the words "provide" "produce", "fawn crops" "fawn recruits", "kill predators" "large numbers" ...?? Sounds to me like they are "restocking" deer every year that is why states with the largest amount of hunters have the highest Deer Vehicle Accidents for many years because large deer herd are needed to satisfy the killers.

you are dillusional. The people writing these articles on these sites (or at least on the MS Dept. of Wildlife site) are educated experts in their field. They teach. They write books. They give seminars. We actually educate the public with information we've gathered from studies.

"Explain why in "deer management" website one always see the words "provide" "produce", "fawn crops" "fawn recruits", "kill predators" "large numbers" ...??"

All you have done here is taken words out of context...which any idiot can obviously do.

See watch....I can do the same thing with you.

Shame on California for planning child bow-hunting of deer

CarolineTC says ....."humans WILL be killed"...."FIRST DEGREE MURDER"........."bow-hunting"........."profane, disgusting, graphic, vulgar, indecent etc"

See how easy that was.

So explain what they meaning of this..

"A large number of does that are nutritionally stressed will not raise as many fawns to be added will not raise as many fawns to be added to the fall population as a lesser number of healthy does."

Why would they worry about "raising fawns" to be "added" to the fall population. What happens in the fall?

correction - "what is the meaning' ( I type too fast)

How about this one

"Thus, late fall up to early winter is very important for deer herd managers to impact and influence fawn production, so make sure the plant communities on your property is properly managed deer habitat. "

If hunting is all about "reducing " deer population because of DVA and Human Deer Conflict then whats up with all the "production" Shouldn't we be more concerned with how to keep a low deer population so we should instead be hearing the world "reduction" and deer birth control don't you think so?

We have a doe that had twins this year on our property. So what is your point? You people are totally crazy as well as misleading. The last pictures you posted were of whitetail deer which do not exist in California. When caught on the lie then you said you lived in New York.

junker, trying to reason with this lady is a waste of time, she is delusional and should be institutionalized, without a computer to enable her to spread lies..

"We have a doe that had twins this year on our property. So what is your point?"

The point is they are beautiful sentient animals and whether I am from New York, NJ, CA, PA, it does not matter, deer is a deer and they are all suffering because of certain sadistic group of people enjoy killing them for sports.

Caroline, you forgot tasty. LOL I don’t think we’re dealing with a well person here.

carolinetc, I have some recipes that would turn you into a sadistic deer killer, you would probably start poaching too since you couldn't wait to dig your teeth into that good meat. Yum. Darn hunting seasons, every day is open season.

Yep, I can see you in camo, wearing that pork chop around your neck heading to the local dog pound ready to make some new friends. Good luck with your new friends, if you find any.

hahah Patrick. LR thx for reminding me.......hunting season is just around the corner.

Also, AJ quit running stories from this wingnut, we know what her position is on hunting. Also she doesnt even live in California.

loomis and patrick - taunting is beneath you. you sound like bullies on these strings.

kittyv, I have to agree with you but now that I decided to get down to their level I have become addicted and can't stop.

Watch this.

Carolinetc, I have been able to communicate with deer many times before, I speak their language quite fluently. This is what they were really saying. "Eat at will, play around, this nutcase is going to use our pictures in a commercial. People will think she loves us and she does, in a nice buck stew". "OK the filming is over, get the heck out before she starts shooting, we're just veal for her".

Darn, does anyone know if the is a carolinetc anonymous group around? I'm an addict, I need to attend some meetings or my sides are going to split open due to laughing so hard.

Carolinetc, thank you for the entertainment you have provided. Have a great day, let me know if you want the recipes, they are finger licking good.

kitty, if you had been at the Fish and Game meeting you would have seen some bullies and they were not us. One even showed up in uniform with a badge even. I wasn't too sure about how they would react in a non regulated environment. After all, the animal lovers like them and the anti abortion crowd have a lot in common as far as acts of terrorism are concerned. Funny analogy but they both like to blow or burn facilities they don't like.

loomis - you have control over how you respond to a situation, what they did is beyond your control. I can't tell you what to do, but I will reiterate that it is beneath you to be taunting and to deliberately try to inflict emotional pain on a person. If this was truly a reaction to something you see as a threat, then I would like to suggest you rethink how you address it, as trying to goad a person into action would seem rather counterproductive. There are extremes on every issue, sometimes it's better to walk away when you realize you are unable to make someone be more open to another viewpoint and they are fully committed to how they feel about it, than to resort to bullying a person. That's what you are doing. Patrick too. Rise above, it's not always easy but it's worth it in the end.

KittyV, You are correct, again. Try to understand that this is a subject near and dear to our hearts, and when someone attempts to mislead our community with lies and distortions, we were called to arms. I think if you were to read all of the personal attacks against us and the name calling, you may have a little bit more understanding. Additionally, if you truly understood how dishonest this person has been you may have a little more understanding. Most of these discussions were not a matter of opinion, but fact. I disagree with the “bullying” accusation. If anyone was attempting to bully, it was Carolinetc. I have, however, stooped to a low that I prefer not to. Thanks for the reality check.

Menninger described hunting as the product of "erotic sadistic motivation." Dr. Joel R. Saper, a University of Michigan professor believes hunting "may reflect a profound yet subtle psychosexual inadequacy." Clinical psychologist Margaret Brooke-Williams theorizes: "Hunters are seeking reassurance of their sexuality. The feeling of power that hunting brings temporarily relieves this sexual uneasiness."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmX9x7l-fOc

By Gareth Patterson Lion Conservationist

"For me and many of the people who contact me to offer their support, killing innocent animals for self-gratification is no different from killing innocent people for self-gratification. By extension, then, trophy hunting--the repeated killing of wild animals--should surely be viewed as serial killing. And in the same moral light humanity's thinking is, I feel beginning to approach such a level of morality.

Pornography is perceived by analysts as a facter that contributes toward serial killers' violent fantasies--particularly "bondage-type" pornography portraying domination and control over a victim.

Hunting magazines contain page after page of (a) pictures of hunters, weapon in hand, posing in dominating positions over their lifeless victims, (b) advertisements offering a huge range of trophy hunts, and (c) stories of hunters' "exciting" experience of "near misses" and danger.

These pages no doubt titillate the hunter, fueling his own fantasies and encouraging him to plan more and more trophy hunts.

Trophy hunters often hire a camera person to film their entire hunts in the bush, including the actual moments when animals are shot and when they die. These films are made to be viewed later at will, presumably for self-gratification purposes and to show to other people--again the longing "to be important" factor? "

cont..

"This could also be seen as a form of trophy which mirrors in some respect pornographic "snuff" videos known to be made by some serial killers. Other serial killers have tape-recorded the screams of their victims, which were kept for later self-gratification."

These are some of the example of hunters snuff videos

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=3D7EFD6D45F88AEB

Anti abortionist are hypocrites and are in the same side as the hunting public (republican conservative quacks) who are suppose to be "pro life" yet they kill people where ARA has not killed anyone and that is their moto, they do not kill.

But the public needs to know what kind of people make up the hunting community. I think I will upload this video here.

Legalized Terrorism in America (to Animals and Humans) is Hunting

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzGjczzAwIc&feature=channel_page

Arsonists burned churches while deer hunting

http://www.all-creatures.org/cash/taah-art-20060309.html

Felons still getting hunting tags

http://www.all-creatures.org/cash/taah-art-20060128.html

Del. law lets felons get hunting licenses

http://www.all-creatures.org/cash/taah-art-20041229.html

Dog Shot with an Arrow

After enduring hours of surgery, wounded dog on mend

http://www.all-creatures.org/cash/taah-art-20060128.html

There is soooo much more and when I upload this video here later on I will post everything. ttyl

carolinetc hunting season is on where do you live can i come over and shoot that doe on yor land ? but i would like the fawn thay taste better thank's i will be waiting for your repley

please to all you deer lover's keep posting where you see the deer at i need a new hunting plaz thank's again

It's comment like "odhorse" that are helping our fight to abolish sports hunting and your "I will come to kill the deer" type comments are dime a dozen.

Animal rights activists are more likely to become domestic terrorists. According to Newsweek Magazine, animal rights activists are closely related to environmental activists and have a propensity for violence, violence toward humans that is. “Records show that PETA, known for its publicity stunts on behalf of animal rights, has given monetary support to the Environmental Liberation Front, ELF.” “We did it, we did it. We gave $1,500.00 to the ELF for a specific program,” said PETA President, Lisa Lange. “The battle for animal rights is getting uglier.” The Animal Rights Groups send poison covered razor blades to hunting groups. The ALF and ELF are on the “Domestic Terrorist” list with the FBI. You won’t find a hunting organization on our Domestic Terrorist lists. One common denominator these nuts have is that they all say killing an animal is “murder.” Hmmm, does that sound familiar?

"Animal rights activists are more likely to become domestic terrorists"

caroline

if you love these animal so much; please come up with another word for sentient. "oh they are sentient" "oh what sentient beings"

either get a thesaurus or google. you sound unsmart

Patrick50 those were never proven to be done by ARA. The AETA is a sham and find any "terrorism" act and put finger on the ARA. No one here is a peta (read my profile information) and lastly there is no death from ARA but tons from the hunting community .

About animal sentient

Scientific studies of Animal Sentience

The most basic way of experiencing the world is through feeling or sensation. ‘Sentience’ is defined as the ability to have perceptions and sensations. A ‘sentient animal’ is an animal that is aware of his/her surroundings and of what happens to him/her and is capable of feeling pain and pleasure, at the least. The current scientific consensus is that all vertebrate animals, at least, are capable of feeling pain and experiencing distress. (For this reason anti-cruelty laws exist in many countries.)

But many of the animals we interact with turn out to have more complex mental and emotional lives than people have understood in the past, and new scientific research is constantly revealing new evidence of animals’ cognitive abilities and their emotions.

By the way ELF is Earth and really have nothing to do with anti-hunters , anti-hunters are all walks of people who despise legalized animal cruelty.

According to Newsweek Magazine Peta and other Animal Rights groups fund the ALF and ELF in court. They helped defend Rod Coronado who bombed buildings on behalf of ALF. He was found guilty and sentenced to five years in prison, just Google to obtain any information on the close connection between the ALF and the ELF. The Federal Government calls them “Domestic Terrorists.” Again, we see that Carolinetc is lying about the Animal rights’ people being considered dangerous and even Domestic Terrorists. You won’t find a hunting organization on the Federal Government’s domestic terrorist list. Obviously, people that think as crazy as they do are potentially dangerous.

I seriously think you are mental Patrick50

Wow! Great come back, Caroline. You can’t refute the truth. :)

Nobody is safe when deer decide to attack!

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=2599099

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=1258792

I live in MIddletown, New Jersey and my pet beagle was gored by a deer this last November. The antlers ripped my dogs stomach wide open, her pacreas were outside her stomach and her intestines were dragging on the ground. Obviously we had to put her to sleep, surgery was an option but would be massive and exploratory with no guarantees.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeA5ow7cS1c

http://www.berrymaninstitute.org/journal/spring2009/hubbard_nielsen_sp09.pdf

http://www.wric.com/Global/story.asp?S=10402233

http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/wildlife_news_humor/87920

Va officials say deer attack 3 in Pulaski County - Topix

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/1068861_deer_attack_absolutely_disgusting

Dumb and dumber spamming my videos with the same comments

http://my.auburnjournal.com/detail/119712.html

Los Angeles Times, August 18, 2008: “Animal rights activists have used increasingly dangerous tactics on researchers whose goal is to save lives.” These activists are even upset because researchers are using “fruit flies.” “These animal rights extremists have chosen to circumvent the legal system and use fear and terror as their primary weapons.” “Animal rights groups “sensationalize” animal research by portraying scientists as “violent animal torturers.” Hey, does that sound familiar? That’s exactly what Carolinetc does. She makes these videos and takes chopped up, edited pieces to fit her agenda, for example, a lady saying the deer were lying dead all over her yard. The truth is she was referring to the dead dear that died from decease, decease that was brought about by too many deer in one place and Nuts feeding them as Caroline, the deer killer, does, oh, the demented mind of an animal rights extremist.

Oh Patrick

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wdgj2NevGRA&feature=channel_page

Yesss?

Here is the video

Shame on Placer Country CA for pushing child bowhunting

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-tQwrvKNeo&feature=channel_page

Three more deer added to the population? Boy, I bet Uhler's trigger finger is jumping. Kidee Kill to the rescue! It's getting out of hand! Come on, Kirk, don't fall asleep at the switch. Start by enlarging this film and playing it on the side of your barn. Then the little nippers can use it for target practice. And your PR campaign is lacking in the polls right now. You need to further convince the ignorant voters how these dirty little beasts on the video will one day smash through their windshield, possibly killing an entire family or two. Make it stop, Kirk....make it STOP!

Actually nicklbag from the stuff I read in so many hunting website it seems they are creating large deer herd for recreational killing. I think everyone should take the time to READ MY BLOGGER, its an eye opener as to learn what "deer management" is really about.

http://mathew5-7.blogspot.com/2009/07/hunters-rut-season-and-deer-vehicle.html

To the right there are link to other blog post and all are must read especially the one where the hunting organization are deliberately creating large deer herd and also how killing does not work because of the ecological principal known as "compensatory rebound".

Well, how fantastic is this! Let's just encourage more wildlife! Why not feed the bears and mountain lions as well. Lyme disease isn't that bad, right?? I've only had three friends nearly die of Lyme disease...

Did you know according the lyme disease foundation killing deer does not reduce lyme disease because they can jump onto other host such as the white footed mouse or bird. Pennsylvania one of the biggest hunting state yet they are #4 (I believe) in lyme disease so we know killing does not work. I been around deer for 5 year and so far no lyme disease for me or anyone in our household so how can you explain that? Did you also know that tick population goes up soon after killing for several months?

Oh, and you can feed the mountain lions and bears if you like and I will stick to feeding deer lol

Caroline, how would you curtail the deer overpopulation?

Deer Birth control because it works and it works well as Jay Kirkpatrick likes to say. We know killing does not work and in fact the hunting industry relies on abundance of deer to kill for sports that is why they are deliberately populated for recreational purpose and why they reject deer birth control..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZnnpkhe8WQ&feature=channel_page

I guess that the the persons feeding wildlife just don't get it. It's not just the lyme, it's many things and the forest service will tell you as much. Didn't you see the pictures of the bear eating from the bird feeder? Stupid

Foothillmum, do you have any idea what the hunting organization and hunters do that is so full of hypocrisy and contradiction? Google "Deer feeder, supplement feeding" then you will see about wildlife feeding for the intention of creating more deer with huge rack to kill for sports and trophy.

Did you know there bear attack when there was hunting in NJ then when it wasn't?

I hear what you're saying, still, I support the forest service in "No feeding the wildlife". I think they know more, that's what they do.

Well, after reading some of the comments here, it gives new meaning to the term "great unwashed." Our system of lousy education is written all over this blog, with the exception of Caroline who has a great deal of accurate information. Bottom line: No birth control for deer, more to kill. Sponsored by, you guessed it, hunters and others who get off on killing. Patrick 50, you demonstrate a genuine propensity for swallowing just about anything you read anywhere and regurg'ing as if it were fact. Better check on who puts out this terrorist tripe. Don't worry, I recognize a chasm when I see one and don't expect you or your friends from Deliverance on this blog to make that leap. When sexuality is tied to dominance and killing, look out. Talk about out of the woodwork! So, let's get 'em young, let 'em taste the blood and smell the guts. Next is humans. Don't worry, it's been proven over and over. You've got Google, look it up. You don't need Caroline or me to show you who and what you are. There are a million websites that can do that for us. BTW, several thousand sites talk about thining herd to increase them by killing does. God forbid the "rack" wouldn't be large enough for you; undersized are we? Caroline, you should leave this back-woods bog; you're shoveling water. And boys, Good old or otherwise, what you want, what you want to believe, and what's really real are forever separated in your heads and in your lives. Sociopaths, anyone?

Thank you daytrip :)