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Saving on carrying charges
State weighs cost of plastic bags on the environment
By Gus Thomson, Journal Staff Writer
Ben Furtado/Auburn Journal
Cathy Jones of Auburn saves five cents a bag when shopping at Save Mart at the Auburn Town Center. She uses cloth bags to not only save a few extra pennies but to keep plastic out of landfills.

Given a choice, North Auburn’s Charles Thompson said he’ll opt to carry his groceries out — without a bag — if conservation-aware state lawmakers decide to attach a fee to plastic bags.

“I’d carry them out in my hands or in a cart if I was charged,” Thompson said, with a slight shrug of his shoulders.

It’s not the Thompson is upset with the idea of the charge. He’ll just go with an alternative that will allow him to pocket the savings.

Thompson is a self-described recycler. That includes recyclable plastic bags from stores that go into a separate bag to bring back to supermarkets that have bins to put them in.

“We’ve been doing it for 10 years,” Thompson said. “Why throw them away?”

That’s what state legislators have been asking in recent months, with two bills in the Assembly expressly tackling the weighty issue of what to do with all those plastic grocery store bags piling up in landfills, littering the ground and waterways, and using up more petrochemical resources.

A ton of plastic is made with 3.85 barrels of oil and much of the finished product is virtually indestructible — a bag can last an estimated 500 years in a landfill.

San Francisco was the first city in North America to act, ordering a ban on plastic bags in grocery stores and large pharmacies two years ago. Shoppers there now have the alternative of using their own cloth bags, paper bags from the store or biodegradable alternatives.

“I know it’s costing stores quite a lot,” said Auburn’s Cassandra Siegel, who said she tries to ask for paper bags rather than plastic. “California definitely needs something like a charge for bags.”

But it’s generally a hard sell. The American Plastics Council estimates that 80 percent of the nation’s groceries are now carried in plastic bags. Philadelphia’s city council just this past week rejected a free plastic-bag ban, with a 25-cent fee applied. But Los Angeles is set to institute a ban similar to San Francisco’s next year.

There are no local bag bans in Placer County communities, although Auburn City Councilman Bill Kirby, a member of the multi-jurisdictional Solid Waste Local Task Force, said the time may be here to look at charging the end-users for plastic products.

Kirby said the cost of plastic bags — from increased landfill space to cleanup in parks and beaches should be calculated — could be calculated and then applied to a charge that shoppers would have to bear if they decide to use a plastic product to cart their groceries. It would be on the same lines as the cost now charged for bottle purchases, he said.

“The only part the government should get is the cost,” Kirby said.

So far, state legislation being proposed has pegged an arbitrary charge of 25 cents a bag at point of sale if stores provide single-use plastic bags. One bill would channel the money to create a bag-pollution fund to funnel grants to cities and counties for litter cleanup and source reduction. The other would require stores to collect fees and money would go into the state’s general-purpose account.

Auburn Patricia Lewis said she usually will get paper, when given a choice of bag materials.

“It’s down to the choice of killing a tree or an animal,” she said. “Those bags can get wrapped around them and kill them.”

Any encouragement to opt for plastic-bag alternatives would help the Western Placer County Regional Landfill out. Stephanie Thompson, junior engineer, said that because there is no market for the bags, they’re not taken out of the waste stream for recycling.

Basically, what’s tossed in the garbage stays in the garbage, Thompson said. At the same time, people who unknowingly bag their plastic and place them in the garbage bin will still see it end up in the landfill. That goes for items with recycle symbols as well as those that don’t, she said.

The regional waste authority does encourage alternatives, including handing out cloth bags at events like Fast Fridays and Auburn Cruise Nite. The next appearance at Fast Fridays will be July 24. The authority will also have an informational booth all four days at the Gold Country Fair in Auburn.

The Journal’s Gus Thomson can be reached at gust@goldcountrymedia.com or comment at Auburnjournal.com

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now see, if you shop at costco you don't get the option of plastic or paper bags but you can use/recycle boxes if you choose. that should take the "costco is evil" tone down a notch don't you think? "it's down to the choice of killing a tree or an animal" not at costco it isn't.

With all the work the legislature must get done to pass a budget, this is what they are focusing on? Lord have mercy. Seems like I remember that we were told to change from paper to plastic to save the trees. I hate plastic bags. They dont stand upright, things spill all over the car and they are not very reusable at home. Give me the paper bags with handles at Bel Air. They have so many uses before they hit the land fill and then they decompose. What a concept. Oh, and as to the 25 cent fee... just another search for more money they can throw after bad.

It's not down to killing a tree or an animal or having a box store move to the area to solve the problem. Use reusable grocery bags. Take a tote you never use, or a book bag, or every store sells them even for less than $2, you don't have to spend a fortune. You will also get a discount at the checkout every time you use your own bag. It's really not rocket science. Nothing is worse than being out on a hike and finding plastic bags out in the middle of nowhere, just blowing along in the breeze, YUCK.

Rockinite: Why not try the canvas re-usable bags you can buy for a buck or two at Bel-Air? They are very sturdy and you can carry a lot more in them, and if you have good upper body strength, you can get all of your groceries from the car to the kitchen in one trip. Even if you don't give a hoot about the environment, the reusable canvas bags are a better way to carry the cargo.

kittyv -

Nothing is worse than being out on a hike and finding plastic bags out in the middle of nowhere, just blowing along in the breeze, YUCK.

Are you sure what about falling down a hill and breaking your leg, getting eaten by a mountain lion,getting poison oak>?

Seems like there are worse things than a wayward plastic bag.

Wouldn't you love to shop in stores where shoppers with cockroach infested homes are bringing critters in with them?

OK, so we changed to plastic to save the trees, now we are going back to paper to save the landfills. Now we are going to fill the landfills with bigger, thicker canvas bags that most people get and then forget to use. And, yes, as Ben points out, what are we going to be bringing into the store with all our re-usable bags? I hadn't thought of that angle.

North auburn man... sounds like Norco vs Corona in so cal.... heh...

globalwarm - since I haven't fallen down a hill and broken a leg or been attacked by a mountain lion, any comment I could make on if it was worse or not would be purely speculation. ;) It sucks to find them everywhere you look, start noticing, I mean it when I say everywhere. Yes, there are worse things, happy?

gail - you hadn't thought of the cockroach angle because it's asinine, and you are smarter than that. What do you suppose is coming in on all those freight trucks, dropping stuff off all day long? Rodents and pests are especially common in big box warehouse type stores. Do you have any idea whats running across the tops of your soda cans at the warehouse right now? Hey, what so you suppose you are bringing home in those Costco boxes?!!?

You all know your options, and you all know the consequences of your choices, so do whatever you want. Cling to the paper or plastic choice and pay money to do so, instead of just getting a discount at the register and reducing needless waste with very little effort on your part. Suit yourself.

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